Earlier this month, American post-hardcore outfit Movements took their gritty, sweaty and intimate live show to Antwerp for a night at the Kavka. Maui Vindevogel sat down with frontman Patrick Miranda and drummer Spencer York in the venue’s warm and sunny courtyard to talk Feel Something, touring and the future.
Hey guys! How are you?
Patrick: Good! Doing well, I’m excited for tonight.
So this is your third show in mainland Europe now, right?
Patrick: Yes, third show in Europe. It’s our second time being in Belgium though, we played here on our last headline tour and it was great. We’re happy to be back.
You just came back from the UK, where you toured with Knuckle Puck. What was that like?
Patrick: It was great!
Spencer: It was a lot of fun. It felt really good to tour with two bands that we have already known for quite a while so, you know, it’s kind of like a bunch of friends just having a big trip while playing music.
Patrick: Yeah, sometimes there’s awkwardness on tours. Obviously with things like getting to know the bands that you haven’t toured with before and stuff. It makes the first week or so more awkward, as you’re still learning names and you’re still trying to figure out everybody’s vibe. But this time around we’re friends with both of the bands; Knuckle Puck and Tiny Moving Parts. It was just a big old pow-wow where we got to hang out.
Like you’d just mentioned before, you already toured Europe earlier this year. That was your first time over here, so how did that feel?
Patrick: Oh my god, it was so incredible! Up until this year, most of us hadn’t even travelled outside of the United States. I think maybe Spencer and Ira did a little holiday travelling?
Spencer: Austin’s been to Germany and Ira’s been to France.
Patrick: So Austin, our bass player, and Ira, our guitar player, travelled a little bit when they were younger with their families. But for Spencer and I, we’ve done little to no travelling, so getting to experience the different cultures and see all these things that we’ve always heard about and seen on television and in movies was really neat and cool! We had a great time, honestly. The shows were also better than we expected them to be. We went to Germany on the last tour, and when we played in Hamburg it’d sold out. The crowd was just amazing. We weren’t really sure what to expect going into it and we came out of it feeling so stoked.
Was there a specific European country that you especially looked forward to visiting?
Patrick: I’ve actually been looking forward to France the most. We didn’t go to France on the last tour, but we played in Paris last night. We finally got to see Paris and go to the Eiffel Tower and do all the fun, touristy stuff.
Spencer: Germany! For no specific reason. It was just the first country I’d been to where English wasn’t the primary language.
Your debut album, Feel Something, came out almost a year ago. How has this past year been?
Patrick: It’s been crazy, honestly. I think this last year has been taking us further than we ever expected it to. Feel Something will be a year old this Saturday (October 20th), which is crazy to think about because it’s gone by just like that *snaps fingers*. Honestly, the reception that we’ve gotten from this album has been so overwhelming and it’s been able to take us to so many places. We just got back from Australia and South East Asia. In Australia we expected the shows to be great but we didn’t know how it was going to be in South East Asia. But we were blown away! I mean, the amount of support that we have in countries that we’d barely even heard or would’ve never expected to ever go, let alone to sell out shows. That was really incredible. I think this record has taken us from being a relatively known band where we’re from to being a globally known band, which is amazing. I don’t think any of us ever expected that to happen as quickly as it has.
Did you feelings about the album change over time?
Patrick: I still love the album, I absolutely love it. But it’s easy to be your own worst critic and look back on music and think, “I wish I would’ve done this different, I wish I would’ve written that part a little better.” You get so used to playing these songs on tour after the fact, whereas beforehand we finished writing these songs while we were in the studio and we didn’t really tour them until it was done. So looking back on it now, there’s things that I do in my live performances that I wish I had done on the record. I don’t know if that applies to you?
Spencer: Yes, it does. I do the same thing.
Patrick: Obviously we’re still very proud of what we’ve been able to put out. But it almost makes it so that you want to push yourself to the next level for the next album.
Since Feel Something you’ve grown a lot as a band. How do you cope with the speed of that growth?
Patrick: It went very fast.
Spencer: Honestly, I’m just doing my thing with my best friends; I don’t know.
Patrick: It is overwhelming. To be completely frank with you, it’s very overwhelming and it’s extremely tiring a lot of the time. Talking about South East Asia again, obviously we were so stoked that we had the opportunity to go there and tour in an amazing place. But it also took so much out of us just because the cultures are so different, and it’s a huge cultural shock going there and experiencing it all during such a short amount of time. We’re constantly travelling, and we don’t usually get a whole lot of sleep on tour. It’s definitely got its pros and cons. The shows and the energy and what we’re getting out of this makes up for all of the negative aspects. It can definitely get overwhelming, though, and we like to have breaks when we can have them, if that makes sense. We try not to do too many back to back tours, as we like to go home for a couple of weeks and relax; to be at home and not have things to worry about. Then we go out and get back into tour mode. These days, the time in between tours gets shorter and shorter. It’s a lot to cope and deal with, but I don’t think that we would trade it for anything. We’re all so grateful for the opportunities that we’ve been given and it’s just been really really positive so far.
You say you’ve been touring a lot lately, but are there any bands you’d like to tour with in the future?
Patrick: There’s a lot of bands that we want to tour with!
Spencer: I’d like to tour with Underøath.
Patrick: Underøath would be amazing! I think there is a line between bands who we want to tour with and bands that are realistic to tour with. I’m a huge Drake fan; I love hip hop and I would love to do a crazy stadium tour, but I know that’s never going to happen with our type of music. Realistically, definitely bands like Underøath. We’re going out on tour with Mayday Parade and The Wonder Years next year, which is going to be so cool. The Wonder Years are a huge influence on Austin, our bass player, and Mayday Parade was one of my favourite bands growing up. We’re touring with bands we looked up to for so long. Last year we toured with Good Charlotte, and that was huge for us. I would love to tour with Rise Against or a big rock band like that. I would even be open to touring with Twenty One Pilots, I think that would be really cool.
So you’ve been touring with bands you’ve looked up. How does it feel to actually meet them and be close to them?
Spencer: Yes, they become your peers. It’s really weird actually, and that’s exactly how it is. We were on Warped Tour all summer this past July and August. Simple Plan was playing on our stage and it was so weird because that was one of the first bands I ever got into. I loved Simple Plan. I found them around the same time I found Good Charlotte, and I actually idolised them. So going into playing Warped Tour and them being on our stage really humanises them. They become less like idols and more just people we hang out with. I would be sitting down at lunch sometimes and you would just sit wherever you want. Multiple times someone from Simple Plan or We The Kings or whoever would sit down and you’d just talk and hang out. It’s so weird to think about the fact that if I was 12 years old, I would be losing my mind over the idea of eating lunch with Simple Plan, but now it’s so normal. I don’t want to say that we’re on the same level as them because we’re not there yet, but we’re within the same realm and we’re peers. I still think it’s somewhat surreal, even after you get somewhat used to it. I remember getting in line for catering when we were playing in Nashville and then William Ryan Key steps in line behind me. I’m like “Oh god, that’s the guy that made me fall in love with music when I was in 7th grade”. He is literally the reason I started listening to modern music. Stuff like that is really hard to get out of your head and it’s still crazy.
Patrick: Most of the guys in Underøath like Movements, and so when we were playing Warped Tour, Tim, their guitar player, came up to us after one of our sets and was like, “Hey man, I just want to say you guys are my favourite band on this tour”. I just lost my mind, it was crazy.
Spencer: Yeah, they were one of the biggest, most consistent influences on me all through high school and even afterwards. I still look up to that band and it’s absolutely crazy to think that they even know who we are. And then also that they like our music.
Do you have a personal favourite song on Feel Something?
Spencer: For me no, I can’t pick one.
Patrick: It’s hard because I have multiple favourites. They shift depending on how I’m feeling. I think my favourite song to play live is Suffer Through; it’s just so high energy and so much fun, I like performing it. When it comes to actually listening to the record, I have so many favourites. Submerge is one, with its slow and dark sound. Colourblind is more of the heavier anthem. Every single song on the record is special to me in different ways. It’s hard to really pick out one.
Spencer: If I had to pick one right now I’d probably say Deep Red because I like the way that songs grooves. I also really like the outro that we’ve got going on in there.
If Movements had one main goal to achieve, what would you say it is?
Patrick: Honestly, we went into this and our only goal was to play music and give it one last shot.
Spencer: Maybe sell out our local venue once or twice if possible. If we were so lucky.
Patrick: We always had a good feeling about the band, we were always hopeful that it was going to do great things but we would have been happy just being well known in our area. That would have been sufficient for us. So that fact that we’ve completely blown those expectations out of the water, I mean, we are in Belgium tonight! There’s 170 tickets sold for this show right now and that’s insane. That’s actually insane. I think our goal now is to take it as far as we possibly can. Obviously we don’t ever want to be that band that sells out, so we’re never going to sacrifice our musical integrity for the sake of being a bigger band. But we do want this to be our careers, we want to take this to the next level and continue to grow for as long as we can. This is all any of us ever really wanted to do.
Spencer: Yeah, we’ve dropped everything. Austin was going for graphic design in college, I was for film, Pat too, and we all kind of stopped what we were doing. In a way it’s too far gone and there’s no turning back. We kind of need it to work out.
Patrick: Yeah, we’re really in this now. And another thing is; we’ve seen how much of a positive impact our music has had on other people’s lives. Our music is working and it’s connecting with people; otherwise we wouldn’t be here right now. It’s so great that we just want to keep doing that. We want to keep pushing ourselves to the next level and keep trying to make that positive impact.
You don’t really play encores, right?
Patrick: Yeah, we try not to. We want to end our set where we ended. We put together our set so that it flows in a way which just makes sense. We like ending our shows on a certain feeling or emotion. Sometimes encores are cool, but often they’re not. You’ll get an encore and you’ll come out and play a song but maybe the energy is less than the song you played before that.
Spencer: Honestly, they’re like the bloopers at the end, when the credits are rolling. Like, you don’t always want to see that.
Patrick: I respect bands that do encores, and we’ve definitely done them in the past. It’s not like we’re hugely against them, but at the same time it’s just like, if we feel like the show ended on a perfect note, why bring it back? Just let that sit and then come back again when we’re back in town.
To conclude: are there any plans for a second album?
Patrick: There are absolutely plans for a second album, but we have been so busy that we haven’t been able to work on it. We have a few songs in their early demo stages right now and we’re probably starting early next year when we have some down time in between tours. We’re going to sit down and write and do more demos and hopefully get round to recording around this time next year. It’s definitely still in the future, it’s just not terribly soon. Obviously it’s our goal to get music out as soon as we can, but at the same time we don’t want to rush anything. We want to make sure we put out something that we’re proud of and something that we feel is better than anything we’ve already put out. We really want to take our time with it and make it the best album that it can be. I think it’s safe to assume that we’ll have a second LP out either by the end of 2019 or at the latest very early 2020.